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Tom Scott

Vor Monat

4 minutes remaining. Then 15 seconds. Then 5 hours. Why can't computers just tell you how long something's going to take? • MORE BASICS: depost.info/throw/PL96C35uN7xGLLeET0dOWaKHkAlPsrkcha.html
Written with Sean Elliott SeanMElliott/ • Graphics by William Marler wmad.co.uk
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Tom Scott
Tom Scott Vor Monat
I'm having to film back in the Tiny Room against green-screen again, as lockdown means the Centre for Computing History is closed! Hopefully they'll be open again soon, although that depends on a very different kind of progress...
Culiynl
Culiynl Vor 14 Tage
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RanMind YT
RanMind YT Vor 14 Tage
why do you private your videos before you upload them
Michael Conroy
Michael Conroy Vor 20 Tage
How did you put in the time estimate of this video in the script as you were recoring? I slowed down the video speed to .25 but can't see where you may have stitched two takes together.
NoobKing
NoobKing Vor 23 Tage
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PrxjectMeme
PrxjectMeme Vor 25 Tage
Why does my phone tell me that this comment was posted before the video was?
Reese606
Reese606 Vor Tag
The only accurate progress bar is the 3DS one And no, not the blue one The one when your digitally downloading a game off of the eShop
Ask Master
Ask Master Vor Tag
100% ... Restarting... 30% .... ... .. 58% ............... 79% ................ 100% .................................................................... Aaaaand it crashed
Adam Cogley
Adam Cogley Vor Tag
Steam
gunship sequel budyboy
gunship sequel budyboy Vor Tag
you should create a program that changes the line on the video
YaBoy •
YaBoy • Vor Tag
Putting my finger over the progress bar to see if its moving
Vex989
Vex989 Vor Tag
Steam installing a game be like: 1 minute left -- 2 hours left -- 5 days left -- 6 minutes left
agustinbs
agustinbs Vor 3 Tage
Are you reporting from 1998?
DG Secret
DG Secret Vor 3 Tage
Tom Scott : Why Progress Bars Don't Move Smoothly Me : Wondering why the progress bar on the title doesn't move
Peto
Peto Vor 3 Tage
0:06 WAS THAT A LEGO RACER 2 LOADING BAR ??????
KoGa
KoGa Vor 3 Tage
"Why can't computers just tell me how long something is going to take?" Because progress bars don't show you time... they show (suprise!) progress.
Rory M
Rory M Vor 4 Tage
Shout out to those 99 years that I was told it was gonna take for my game to open when I was 8.
P Church
P Church Vor 4 Tage
This is why I leave and do something else when I’m downloading something. If it takes 5 minutes or 2 hours I’ll have something nice to come back to once I remember
GigaGame
GigaGame Vor 4 Tage
who needs a progress bar when u have a gaming fridge that can download anything almost instantaneously
YY YELLOW
YY YELLOW Vor 4 Tage
Why this guy is soo much underrated
karehaqt
karehaqt Vor 4 Tage
Good old Microsoft Minutes
Deconimus
Deconimus Vor 5 Tage
How was the halting problem not mentioned in this video?
KysterPSY
KysterPSY Vor 5 Tage
Loved the Sopranos kinda ending.
Pat Smash
Pat Smash Vor 5 Tage
My loading bar just goes backwards
Chane
Chane Vor 7 Tage
looking at you STEAM
A Skellington
A Skellington Vor 8 Tage
LOADING GEOMETRIES 62%
Yajihba
Yajihba Vor 8 Tage
Someone tell computer making people to put this when turning on a computer after shutting it down
Lordlouckster
Lordlouckster Vor 8 Tage
Solution: Have individual progress bars for each step. Step 1/4: 10% Step 1/4: 20% ... Step 1/4: 100% Step 2/4: 10% Step 2/4: 20% ... Step 4/4: 90% Step 4/4: Done!
Hasan A
Hasan A Vor 9 Tage
The one thing I wish I could do when it came to downloading something is allocate as much resources to downloading as possible. I love that you can still Watch Netflix, have a conference call, and edit a video in Adobe After affects, while downloading somthing, but sometimes I just want to download something, walk away and have the computer just worry about downloading or moving the file.
Sideways
Sideways Vor 9 Tage
This is the corollary to Windows 10 offering to kill any app that takes more than 15 seconds to do something - apparently Windows isn’t seeing a progress bar😅
Eeee
Eeee Vor 9 Tage
Bar: 1% to 99% : 20 minutes Bar: 99% to 100% : *10 hours*
Viktória Vadon
Viktória Vadon Vor 9 Tage
I agree, as long as the progress bar is moving (and not backwards!), I know something is happening!
Frog 4096
Frog 4096 Vor 10 Tage
3:42 Looking at you, Windows 10
Samson Kinyanjui
Samson Kinyanjui Vor 10 Tage
/////// / / / / / / / / / / / / / 10more years ///////// / / / / / / / / / / / 30more seconds
Riley Carpenter
Riley Carpenter Vor 11 Tage
Content
mozl83
mozl83 Vor 11 Tage
That's also why many programmers have gone the other way and just show "progress indicator" instead of progress bars. Like the spinning wheel on Windows. It just shows that the PC didn't freeze and is still working, but you don't have any indication on how long it's going to take. Also if "time" isn't a parameter itself then the progress bar can never be give you a proper "remaining time". A countdown is always accurate because the time itself is the parameter that makes it work. Filetransfer ist based on the files and not on the time, so it will finish when it is finished, not when a certain amount of seconds have passed (like the queue in the supermarket. Fewer people doesn't mean the line is faster. There are just fewer people in front of you.).
Cameron Figgins
Cameron Figgins Vor 11 Tage
Minecraft’s progress bar be like: And I took that personally
Zari Hanssen
Zari Hanssen Vor 11 Tage
Loading time estimates be like: 20 minutes 4 seconds 45 minutes 5 minutes 999999 hours
Butter of Sorrow
Butter of Sorrow Vor 11 Tage
Personally I like loading screens that tell you what exactly they're doing, like most source and goldsource engine games. "Validating game resources." "Sending client info." That kind of thing.
French Comprehensible Input
French Comprehensible Input Vor 12 Tage
100% done = 90% done *Adobe Premiere users* will understand 😂
Helio Gonzalez
Helio Gonzalez Vor 12 Tage
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Silksong Date
Silksong Date Vor 12 Tage
4:48 smh now you'll have to record everything from the start rippppp
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SoftBunnyCreations Vibing Vor 12 Tage
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pencilchat
pencilchat Vor 13 Tage
my monitor froze during a download once, so i thought it took 4 hours to get a 20mb download done.
Zoltan
Zoltan Vor 13 Tage
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Eugene Lo
Eugene Lo Vor 13 Tage
Imagine the progress bar in the title is how long Tom Scott's life is
Cypress
Cypress Vor 13 Tage
is this the guy who says “xnyopit”
fossar _
fossar _ Vor 13 Tage
Is it just me or was the audio an video out of sync (I'm assuming deliberately)? If so nice choice.
Tomáš Lipták
Tomáš Lipták Vor 13 Tage
I think the best loading screens are when there are actually two (think winrar) one for the whole process and the other for individual processes. From there you can see that it is actually doing something.
youtubeusername
youtubeusername Vor 13 Tage
Pov: you kept checking your scroll bar through out the video
The cheese
The cheese Vor 13 Tage
Me when I tilt my phone facing down and the progress bars start moving again.
Pawit Ninnabodee
Pawit Ninnabodee Vor 14 Tage
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RanMind YT
RanMind YT Vor 14 Tage
What is the 1% that’s taking so long to load
wozerD
wozerD Vor 14 Tage
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Leo Telles
Leo Telles Vor 14 Tage
You look young and old at the same time. That's a real mistyr to me, you should make a video about it!
AK Nephtali
AK Nephtali Vor 14 Tage
The worst thing is when it goes to 99% immediately and then stays there for what feels like a millennium. Thank you for explaining this in your usual awesome way!
SYS
SYS Vor 14 Tage
A thing the program could do to resolve, or at least find a more smooth load, is by logging the time, taking the estimated time that it took, and telling you that number. If it was a game, it could show how long it had taken the last 10 times, (assuming you would've loaded it that many times), and let's say a file upload, it could track how long it would take for 100 files, and estimate the amount of time, that this would take because its 10x times larger, or half the size = it would be 10 times longer or ½ times faster.
BlurryPirate
BlurryPirate Vor 14 Tage
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Phill Wainewright
Phill Wainewright Vor 14 Tage
Dropbox "Time Remaining" when uploading a video is a complete work of fiction.
Stipe Poljak
Stipe Poljak Vor 14 Tage
Intro music from the Chase?
HowDeeDoo
HowDeeDoo Vor 15 Tage
Steam update estimation times. 3 minutes, 7 minutes, 18 minutes, 2 hours, 17 hours... 12 seconds.
whadup
whadup Vor 15 Tage
I cant be the only one that was annoyed that the two progress bars didn't match perfectly 😁
Kebbo
Kebbo Vor 15 Tage
coomrag
John Southfield
John Southfield Vor 15 Tage
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Lambor_ghini
Lambor_ghini Vor 15 Tage
Progress screens can lock up and fool you to wait forever but ultimately you have to reset the computer..
Bubba Games
Bubba Games Vor 15 Tage
The video progress bar is half a second off
Haydenex
Haydenex Vor 15 Tage
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Zak Fallows
Zak Fallows Vor 15 Tage
I have four letters for you: RTOS. A Real Time Operating System (RTOS) provides hard or soft guarantees of how long a program will take, in instruction cycles. Sometimes this is critically important, for instance if the machine is doing quantitative chemistry and it needs to error out if the reaction time wasn't very close to 90 seconds. It's fun stuff.
Cristian Martinez
Cristian Martinez Vor 16 Tage
why a linguistic knows computing, that aint fair
Paul Potter
Paul Potter Vor 16 Tage
Who else checked that the video progress bar was in sync?
jeremiaas15
jeremiaas15 Vor 16 Tage
What I'd like to know is, how is it possible that progress bars always show, even if for a split second, 100%. Surely, if that were truth, the next thing would pop up instead.
LRC
LRC Vor 16 Tage
I love it when a simple download says "2 years remaining" or "∞ time remaining".
AsrithTechsys
AsrithTechsys Vor 16 Tage
Are you anyway realated to Linus Torvalds?
TROVEN
TROVEN Vor 16 Tage
Who else leave cursor at the edge of the progress bar to see if its actually moving?
Sara Olmstead
Sara Olmstead Vor 16 Tage
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Thaer Razeq
Thaer Razeq Vor 16 Tage
Always, stuck at the dreaded 99% or 100% more so than the previous 98% or 99% combined.
Craig Smith
Craig Smith Vor 16 Tage
Large cache SSD and a modern high core CPU like Ryzen 9 or 10+ core i9. RIP, progress bar existence
Abhinav Dev
Abhinav Dev Vor 16 Tage
When they do move smoothly It is the most satisfying thing in this world.
Simon T
Simon T Vor 17 Tage
This is a repost?
Snowjix
Snowjix Vor 17 Tage
3:42 Too real Tom..
HP Gummy
HP Gummy Vor 17 Tage
I didn't need to know this
Ariel Zabihi
Ariel Zabihi Vor 17 Tage
Do one on browser compilers and header data
DoubleDS9
DoubleDS9 Vor 17 Tage
Excellent! Thank you.
Cj Slime
Cj Slime Vor 17 Tage
I can understand why they change but the lock at 99.9 percent complete is annoying
Phung Ngoc Quynh
Phung Ngoc Quynh Vor 17 Tage
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Shakhzod Mukhammadiev
Shakhzod Mukhammadiev Vor 17 Tage
*Good ol' floppy drives "3%.... 4%.... 98% DONE"*
Candy Vargas
Candy Vargas Vor 17 Tage
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Dino Hall
Dino Hall Vor 15 Tage
Am I supposed to know what this means?
Hayato Tenryuu
Hayato Tenryuu Vor 18 Tage
Maybe Windows just decides to restart itself in order to install an update that I don't care about, and would actually rather I didn't have to have.
Brando Calrisian
Brando Calrisian Vor 18 Tage
Beware the perfectly smooth progress bar, got it. Great advice, thanks, i had no idea about any of this!
Bedrock Yams
Bedrock Yams Vor 18 Tage
1:49
HarD To Grind
HarD To Grind Vor 18 Tage
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Free Wolf
Free Wolf Vor 18 Tage
Thanks.
Evan Ouk
Evan Ouk Vor 18 Tage
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Juan Hernandez Vor 18 Tage
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NERV
NERV Vor 18 Tage
Don't trust progress bar. I installed android x86 and the progress bar goes down to 80% from 98%.
It's Me
It's Me Vor 18 Tage
League of Legends joined the chat for 87 %
Roblo
Roblo Vor 19 Tage
It's my trash wifi.
Andy Delle
Andy Delle Vor 19 Tage
One way to look at this issue is as follows: What do you want the computer to spend it's time resources doing? 1) Analyzing all aspects of the task and the current conditions which could provide a very accurate time estimate. 2) Concentrate on moving the data or crunching it with time calculations done on available wait times. It's often the case where an accurate completion time estimate would take longer than just doing the requested task.
Charlotte Hal
Charlotte Hal Vor 19 Tage
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Illuminati Playz
Illuminati Playz Vor 19 Tage
No offense, but you look like you are 16, 32 and 80 at the same time...
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Abhay _/ Vor 19 Tage
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Ocean
Ocean Vor 19 Tage
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PulsarXZ
PulsarXZ Vor 19 Tage
The ONLY EVER ACCURATE Progress Bar I have EVER SEEN was the time I hacked my 3ds (godmode9)
KrisRaps
KrisRaps Vor 19 Tage
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